We are going to give way right away to don santiago lópez
barrena arenas is responsible for the
sustainability of the airline company flying is an
aeronautical engineer is a colleague of the
police university of catalonia has just
come from barcelona has just landed and come
what is for the event with which it is
effective I give you a double grace in that
aspect, well, nothing, we take a step to your
presentation, thank you very much, I perfectly
mentioned that the presentation hangs there it has
it, thank you, thank you very much for organizing
these days that always bring a lot of value and
before we comment on it, we have seen each other
in other previous days and God wants to give a
little context of what the airline sector is doing
some things will be repetitive with what
has advanced from the reps or from the
civil aviation general direction but I will give
it more from the point of view of the concrete
area not to extend me much because it is not
repetitive but if I wanted to start giving a
little about flying because well sometimes
it is also good to put the airline in context
for a part of a group of airlines is from the
Mayans of the world the city of ajeg for the part of
Iberia british airways and lingus and we last
year we operate around 200,000 flights a year
in our peak time we operate almost 800 flights a
day with a fleet of about 130 planes and we move
around 40 million passengers with a team of
more than 5,000 professionals we are with the
headquarters in Barcelona but we operate throughout
Europe we have aircraft scattered throughout the
continent then at the level of connectivity,
gas flying is quite important in Barcelona, as
you already know, the connectivity impose there and
in the rest of the Spanish airports we are also the
main domestic operator, a third of the
domestic passengers who fly in Spain fly with
us, the important bases in Bilbao, the Canary Islands and
other and Seville, for example, other European airports
and we have been focused on promoting that
connectivity and why do I say this because
imposing connectivity does not necessarily
mean being much more polluting, that is,
the amount of mention increases but there are plans to
mitigate that and to be able to continue offering that
connectivity that during these last 20 years
that last year we turned 20 years has allowed
to position the airport of Barcelona for
example as one of the best connected airports
in Europe and also the rest of the Spanish
airports also benefit from that connectivity
with air transport and the rest of the airlines,
a curious thing is that as despite being a
low-cost airline we are an airline that we also connect
with the long-range airlines, which is something
quite unique with us since you can buy a flight
with a flight from Barcelona or Seville to
New York, you connect in Barcelona, you take a flight
from level or you take a flight from American Airlines
because we have a series of codes shared with
many airlines that allow you to reach both
Asia and North America and South America with a flight
and that is something quite unique but we focus on
what we are here today, which is sustainability
and the air transport sector, entering a
little into the subject, I did want to explain a
little what initiatives and I have said it before in a
slightly more extensive way that the sector
is doing to reach emissions in 2050, which
is the main goal for which we are all
working and it is summarized in three
very simple main levers, the first is the
efficiency of the operations, the first of the
fleet, we are going to start with the fleet, if we
operate a fleet of more efficient aircraft, because this
consumes less fuel and directly emits
less, a new generation aircraft, a 320 neo,
because it emits about 20% less emissions than
the aircraft, the conventional equivalent, so
there is an effort to renew the important fleet,
they are very, very important investments, but
well, little by little it is being renewed, it would
be the first and fundamental leg that I would say
that applies in the aviation sector in
the sector of any sector, anyone who has a
personal vehicle, because to consume less, a new
car is bought and it manages to reduce it, it
applies to everyone, secondly, the efficiency
of operations, we mentioned it before, the fact
of space is a very congested infrastructure,
a series of airways, a series of
radio-aids designed 40-50 years ago in an
environment where the gps coverage was not the one
that is now, we did not have the negation issues
that we have now, so that has not changed, the
infrastructure is still the same and that implies that
when we fly from one city to another we continue to do it
with navigation media or with a design of
the space, rather, which is not the one that
is suitable for the technology that we have
today, the technology that we have today with
airplanes that we can fly via satellite or
we have much more advanced systems, we could
fly in a much more optimal way from one city
to another, but how the space is designed
is something that does not allow it in many cases
and that generates an inefficiency of around 10%
with an additional 10% of missions compared to
what would be ideal and that is the European Union
deployed in 2002 or at that time a plan called the single european sky
the single european sky which is a program that
is advancing very very slowly because obviously
there is a political issue behind in the end
there are the borders of the countries each one
wants to stay in their country their territory
there are many internal political battles but
beyond that there is a series of technologies
that are trying to deploy to allow
this infrastructure that is being a bit
obsolete to improve and we can optimize
this space and there we are trying to work and
now we will see it with in air and eurocontrol in
air is the Spanish space manager and eurocontrol
and the European to identify improvements that
we can make while the politicians are
fighting, we are advancing, we are trying to
look for some improvement and there we would get a 10%
improvement of missions, which is a lot, it is the figure
that is the eurocontrol but we will see we will
see what we can achieve and last but not least
the sustainable fuel the saf that the
representatives have spoken a lot there we do see
a very important improvement because the saf
reduces 80% of emissions throughout the life cycle
and that in the end for the entire sector if we get
the very important figures of the saf because we could
reduce 70 80 percent of the emissions of the
entire sector only with this if in addition to
adding the fleet and the efficiency because
we could reach zero practically with a
bit of emissions that we would have to compensate
with more advanced technologies but we would be
almost there the issue is the phase of how we
deploy this at the right speed so that it arrives
when it has to arrive and does not arrive in 2100
that maybe it is no longer the turn then entering
into the details of what we are doing
from vueling we have a fleet renewal plan
and currently we have a mixed fleet of older
and newer planes about 30 new generation
planes right now but recently now in July we
announced that we are going to renew the entire
fleet with boeing 737 max which are new
generation aircraft that also allow us to
reduce the emissions in the same percentage
more or less 20% is very similar to the
service in terms of efficiency and that is what we
are going to start now at the end of 2016 to start
renewing the fleet and in a more accelerated
way to be able to achieve this first objective
then we have other initiatives more development
and innovation we believe that apart from all this
that we have commented there is always a part of
innovation and new products that have not been tested
so far or have not been able to be deployed
in the industry as it can be micro-tablets
is an Australian company that has designed a
film that is what they call in English mimicry
that imitates the skin of the shark the skin of
the shark reduces the resistance with the water in
its case in this case with the air the idea is to
cover the plane 80% of the plane with this film
and you get a resistance reduction of almost
4% that would be translated into a reduction of
similar emissions is a very important reduction
they are just developing it they are doing tests
with some planes in the US and Australia
and we have an agreement with them to start
doing tests and ideally if we get the certification
of this and be able to have it in 2027 or
at that time and be able to benefit from these
improvements in the resistance of the plane both
the new planes and the old ones while we have
some old plane because they will have this that
will help while the new one does not arrive to improve
efficiency and this is a new thing that must be
joined to them you have to develop it you have to
certify it or it has many things ahead but it is also
a nice challenge to get this to the market
this agreement we also signed I would say that
two or three years ago we already announced it in the
mobile world congress is also a startup that developed
an electric motor that is installed in the nose
wheel and this allows the plane to move on the
ground without the need to use the engines so that
they are turned on at the end only the time of
heating that they need that is about three minutes and
they would take off with the engines but everything that
is in movement at the airport to airports
that the filming time is 15-20 minutes because
those avoid the use of engines light tower at
the end of emissions noise fuel consumption
greatly accelerates the process on the ground because
one thing also interesting about this is that the
pilot himself can do the pushback of the plane from the
stand with a series of cameras and the engine yes and
then you also avoid the car that pushes
you with a series of complexities that also
allows you to speed up at the end we get better
sustainability and also better operations we also try
to look for those two things and then we have here
another tool we comment on the single European sky
the single european sky that this is this
tool we develop completely internally with the
data team that we have in the house that are about
500 people and it is a tool that allows us to
daily calculate what would be the optimal trajectory
of all the flights that we operate every day with
the winds of that day is with that we measure
what is the inefficiency of each route with the
airspace that we currently have then it
allows us to identify which routes have more
potential for improvement then we go to the
air we sit with them we say well this route has
twenty-something percent inefficiency and this
cannot be we look for an improvement we sit
with them we try to look for improvements it is
a complicated process we are still in it we have
several routes that we are trying to work with
them but we hope that this allows us to unlock
some some corridors that are very inefficient
and that we could improve to advance in this
objective of the single European sky that we have been
for more than 20 years and it is still there with some
improvements but it is still costing a little to
start and with this we try that with technology it
allows us to unlock these impediments and we do
this with the collaboration of the air because
we believe that the public-private collaboration
is good in us we really like to work with
the public authority also because they also have
good ideas even though sometimes we criticize
the regulation but it is also part of the improvement
of the texts that it publishes and then entering
the saf the saf I do not want to extend much because I
think you have already talked a lot about that and if
it would not be to repeat myself but hey the summary
is three types of waste that is usually produced
saf cooking oils that is the one that is
currently used then we have urban resources
forest and agricultural resources that would be more
the second generation that is also being worked on
now in parallel with synthetic fuels that is
the one that has two air capture and green
hydrogen these last ones are the ones that are
more complex to develop are more expensive also but
hey it is advancing and in the end it is the
aspiration of the sector to get there the oil used
in the kitchen because it will reach a point that we
have that we will have but if we are working on the
other technologies we have a different diversification
of portfolio that will allow us because now I have
this now I have the other one I am combining and I
have a healthy portfolio of sustainable fuels that
so that it depends on which regions because they will
serve better than each other and here I wanted to
show you a little summary of how we have been
submitting as a symbol before we commented
that the mandate of how it is sustainable
began in 2025 in January of this year but we
have been submitting as a sustainable system since
2022 we made a first flight in 2021 at the end of the
year barcelona sevilla but in 2022 and we
began to supply it with some contributions that
the passengers made voluntarily we were
equal and with that we got another 300 tons
that year then we multiplied almost four times
in 2023 and then last year in 2024 we multiplied
almost ten times all this voluntarily about
13,000 tons there are some incentive schemes
that I mentioned before the European Union but
this in the end was also at risk because those
that were not quite defined either and they
had published the European Union published
an incentive scheme that was very good but
the detail was very little then we assume a
financial risk of making that investment then a part
because we have seen it mitigated because in the
end it has reached its mention in the volume
that we expected but there is always some
uncertainty that some operators are encouraged
to make these investments this assume this risk
other operators do not and it is something
that we have to work together so that whenever
incentives are deployed, it is clearly and that it is
clear how much it will reach you in the end it is clear
not how much I am going to spend how much it will
reach me and where and in what time and then from 2025
and the bandit begins what we commented
from 2% to 70% this year because obviously
we will supply 2% of the European airports
that we do not have to and also we
always try to make an important voluntary
amount because in 2030 we have committed
as a group to reach 10% of how sustainable
it is, which is almost double in 2030
6% and then we get a 4% more we have committed ourselves then that
implies that always apart from what is
mandatory we will submit more to reach
and reach that goal and that requires an effort
it also requires an effort where to buy it
so that the cost is efficient, it always has
an overcost, that is clear but you have to
see a little where the incentives are,
unfortunately, the incentives are more outside of
Europe than inside, then you have to see
the way to channel them and also finally
to finish and so I give way to the next one, the
image of how we found before is important we have
seen it micro tao will taxon initiatives that
must be worked on together with smaller companies
we start bigger because we join small and
large companies we try to get a product that
until now no one dared to take out because it has a risk
and it is complex to certify something to the market
but we believe that there is a lot of technology that
is still in those states of little maturity that could
arrive in a few years and make a big change
it makes sense we work a lot with the
pc in Catalonia also delighted to work with
the pm and for example the pc in this case
this year we installed a test bench of saf
we installed a turbine with a series of
meters and with repsol because with some samples that
they gave us and with their team of images of we have
done several tests to test that one hundred percent
in those engines to see what performance they have
if there is any factor some parameter and all
the truth that the results are very good and
the commitment is to continue testing different
types of safes of different technologies and
confirm that there is actually no problem in
terms of the use of 100% of safety that
currently we have not commented on before
that it is a little later but currently the
engines are certified for a 50% of maximum safety
but that does not imply that in a few years it
can be 100 in fact many engines and admit
in 100 but for safety and because as
before we commented on the fuel and the airport
system is opened and you cannot guarantee that all
the planes have the same engine for safety is
limited to 50% but in a few years it will reach 100%
the objective of these turbines is to prove that with
100% of safety the turbine works well there is no
more greater wear the performance is good the
thrust is good and with them we are working
a lot and then we also have several collaborations
with startups there is a blues one of them is a
Canadian company that is developing a
technology of fuel and safety of synthetic fuel
from electrolysis of sea water of salt
water that is water normally it is made of
fresh water with salt water what they allow is
that when doing electrolysis instead of losing
oxygen that has a value and they lose it to the
atmosphere and what they do is make salt water
we do not lose oxygen a product comes out
that is rocket fuel is made that can be used
for an industry here I believe that this industry if it
allows to mitigate the cost of 6 to which it is usually
more expensive and helps the business case
to be much more much cleaner we are working
with them also in some projects to see how we
can get this technology to the market and I think
I did not leave anything else now I think it is good
this I think we will talk more at the table the points
that I do not want to advance them much and to discuss
it later because we see that in Spain there are several
points that must be overcome first before our
projects arrive and at some point and we can
lead it but we are going to do it now not in a few years
because we already see that China and other markets
are already very strong and as we do not get the
batteries we will be left behind the first of them is the
reinforcement of the electrical network without a good
electrical network that allows many megawatts to be
supplied to important projects such as these
technologies it will not be impossible to develop in a
forest management plant also for better
management of waste there is an opportunity
of forest regions to produce fuels and then
incentives because there is security in
business plans that then we can enter more
in detail direct incentives fiscal incentives
there are many series of incentives that can be
deployed it is always important that the incentives are
aimed at being clear that sometimes, because at
the public level, incentives are launched but then
when you go to the paper and you want to see the detail
it is not clear or the figure or when or how then
that is always important and then finally always
because the management is always important
but hey that I leave it for later that I think it is
more interesting to see it on the table and nothing
because thank you very much and now we do not
comment on the table in many thanks
Santiago indeed what is is a bad example of
visibilization of an operator an operator also
a market leader an operator who already has
if I remember correctly 60 devices based in
Barcelona a fleet of 140 more than the second
base in Orlino if I do not remember in Paris
effectively and not only an operator more and not
an operator of those who are doing things frankly
very admirable in their life during the table what
the posterior after the things we are going to do
now in the table we will deepen with all the
actors private actors actors of the public
sector we will talk about the future of this which
is not easy is very complex and especially the
economicist character that it is not for the
only line for the producers it is not it is not
and you have to see it and we will try
to condense it in the dedicated time